Episode 47 · Season 10

In Search Of The Ancients with Cliff Dunning

By Billy Carson · July 5, 2026 · 56 min

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Billy Carson welcomes Cliff Dunning, creator and host of the Earth Ancients podcast, for a conversation rooted in Dunning's decades of research into lost civilizations. Dunning describes early influences including his grandfather's library on indigenous tribes and the Maya, the work of researcher Charles Fort, and his mentorship under John Anthony West, who himself studied under the scholar known as R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz. Dunning recounts geologist Robert Schoch's debate with Egyptologist Mark Lehner over water-erosion evidence used to argue for an older date for the Sphinx. The two also discuss new LIDAR-based discoveries in Central America, including pre-classic Maya sites in Guatemala, such as El Mirador, that Dunning says push back the timeline of complex Maya civilization to earlier than 300 BC. Carson and Dunning discover they share a mutual friend, an Egypt-based tour guide, and Dunning points listeners to his site, earthancients.com, while Carson promotes his own upcoming Egypt tour.

Topics: Cliff Dunning, Earth Ancients, Robert Schoch and the Sphinx, Maya LIDAR Discoveries

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